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We got a little, well, a lot geek for episode four. The idea of doing episode four brought up thoughts of Star Wars which lead us to other fandoms such as Doctor Who, Star Trek, Game of Thrones, and more. We wanted to go through some of our favorite areas of pop culture geekdom and examine the philosophies and diets of different races and characters.
We managed to jump around some (and got a bit deep in fandom) but we managed hit some interesting points along the way. Warning, things get weird...
The topic that started this discussion is, "would a Jedi be vegan?" We fill that they would however, there are some holes we worked on filling. Our first set of evidence was the Jedi creed:
We felt that the last three were great points about protecting all life. However, the area Dave got stuck on was since Jedi's view death as a part of life, does that mean they would consume something that died naturally and without suffering?
Hope pondered if Ahsoka Tano would switch to a meat substitute even though her species was carnivores.
Hope also questioned if the Jedi reaches a certain level, do they need to eat. However, David said that since the Sith are the "Jedi" of the dark side and Vader needs vitapaste for food then the Jedi must eat. However, we think the Sith would be meat eaters given they get their power from taking it from others. You can see some of this in the Sith creed.
Dave proposed the question that if the Jedi were vegan and came across someone who wasn't would they intervene and "guide them"? Hope thought the Jedi would remain hands off and provided the logic behind it.
Hope realized... now... after recording... that she called the Solo kids, Jaina Solo and Jacen Solo, the names of the Wonder Twins, Zan and Jayna. She has been scolded and frozen in carbonite for her betrayal.
Hope mentioned that Liam Hemsworth went vegan, which turned our talk to Star Trek.
There is an episode where Spock has to eat meat to survive and is disgusted with himself. To which David remarked that the concept of meat consumption and our biological makeup leads to an animal based diet to being "illogical".
Also, we speculated that beings traveling the universe would have moved passed animals in their diet. However, what about a replicated turkey breast? We have this now with people working on "lab grown" meat that didn't require "mistreatment". Dave and Hope addressed this and talked about if we would consume a "lab grown" burger would we? (you'll need to listen to find out).
Dave brought up the clips of Bill Nye and Richard Dawkins(1 | 2) and how they viewed a plant-based diet. This tends to frustrate us since they support it but don't make nor push the change. In addition to Bill and Richard Dave proposed that even the act of catch and release fishing is harmful as fish can still feel pain even though people still want to debate it:
We talked about the poppler episode of Futurama where the crew found a tasty food on a planet and started selling it. Once they realized the "food" was alive and sentient they changed their tune and tried to save them.
Being big Doctor Who (2005) fans Hope and Dave gushed over their favorite doctors and discussed their possible dietary choices. In the episode "The Two Doctors" the doctor changed to a plant-based diet for his companion but that wasn't mentioned again. We talked about how the Doctor is able to talk to horses, babies, the space whale, and remembers "Jim the Fish" with River. Because of this we suspect he may be vegetarian/vegan. However, Hope points out that the Doctor did eat fish fingers and custard but Dave contests that he was mid regeneration and was out of sorts.
GAME OF THRONES
There was a brief mention that Peter Dinklage follows a plant-based diet and is an avid spokesman for animal rights. Any food he eats on Game of Thrones is made from tofu or seitan.
Hope mentioned that Beast Boy went vegetarian/vegan because he was able to turn into those animals and knew that they were able to feel pain and other emotions. According to the Teen Titans Wiki:
"Having transformed into most of the meat-producing animals, Beast Boy has lost his taste for meat and is now a vegetarian, which often gets him arguing with the others (especially Cyborg) because he constantly attempts to have the others adopt his culinary taste as well."
Mark Waid, in "Birthright", made Superman vegetarian when he gain the power to see the pain of animals. However, this was quickly reversed by DC. Hope, thought that Wonder Woman would be plant-based since she sees all life a sacred.
Dave, in attempt to get slammed with hate mail, pointed out that he thinks comics tend to cling to the meat eating idea since it's seen as manly and comics tend to market heavily to the male demographic.
A few off topic items came up where We discussed how we aren't part of the food chain but rather removed from it. In addition, humans have caused animal extinction faster than they would have naturally.
We took some time while talking about Neil Gaiman about his comments on honey and our views on the subject.
What do you guys think? Would the Jedi or the Doctor be vegan? Know any plant-based superheros we didn't mention? Let us know on Facebook, Twitter, or Tumblr.
We had a fantastic time visiting A New Hope: Animal Sanctuary and Education Center over the weekend. The owners, Hutton and Max Baird, spent some time to chat with us about the center, their lives, and the amazing animals under their care! We were able to tour the sanctuary, meet the animals, and hear all about their stories.
It was a lot of fun and a bit of a challenge to record, but we think you’ll enjoy it! We must say that Ghost, the raccoon, was the star of the day for us!
A New Hope: Animal Sanctuary and Education Center is a fantastic way to learn about the lives and importance of the animals in which we share this planet. If you are interesting in volunteering at the sanctuary, then the next date is November 22. Visit their Facebook page to sign up, follow them on Instagram, and visit their website to get more info on the sanctuary!
A New Hope has planned some awesome events through the end of the year!
A holiday party is planned for December 12. There will be vegan hot cocoa and a chance to play Santa to the animals! Ghost likes anything shiny...
Vegan wine and cheese party will be held on January 8, because who doesn’t want delicious vegan wine and cheese? Tickets are still available, so click the link below before they are all gone! Did I mention vegan wine and cheese?
A fundraiser has been set up to help the sanctuary grow! Please donate if you can and share the link! Every dollar helps!!
Curiously Veg is adopting a turkey this year and we want you to help decide who the lucky bird will be! Visit our voting page and vote for your favorite gobbler this year! We’re adopting Friday, so cast your vote!
Big thanks to Hutton Baird for providing the amazing music for the end of this podcast! Listen to the whole song, This Is, and subscribe to his YouTube channel for more amazing music!
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Today’s episode is all about the Atlanta Veg Fest. We’re still recovering from sleep deprivation and too much amazing vegan food! We had an amazing time and were blown away by the support and interest in this idea turned movement called Curiously Veg!
Our round table talk was a blast (we never did discuss how to kill Superman though…)! A big thank you to everyone who attended and helped spur a lively and entertaining discussion on vegan nutrition! The topics ranged from dealing with new vegan bloat, eating healthy on a budget, stereotyping of male vegans, the protein question, vitamin deficiencies, and a whole lotta awesome personal stories!
We touched on the Dirty Dozen and the Clean 15 when it comes to choosing organics. Use this handy guide from the Environmental Working Group to help you make choices at the grocery store!
The story that got really us talking at the round table was the New York post article My Vegan Diet Almost Killed Me. The article centered on the blogger Jordan Younger, the Blonde Vegan, and her diatribe on veganism. We had a blast sharing stories and opinions about that! Thanks guys!
We hope you enjoyed our recap of the Atlanta Veg Fest and make sure you subscribe so you don’t miss any upcoming episodes! We have more fun and interviews heading your way!